May 2, 2012

The internet, especially Twitter, was all ablaze over the news that HIV activist and survivor, Rae Lewis-Thornton had her honorary membership into Delta Sigma Theta rescinded.

Mrs. Lewis-Thornton took to Youtube to announce to the world what had happened and to express her profound disappointed to what she describes as a moment that completely 'blind-sided' her.
Mrs. Lewis-Thornton was in the middle of counting down the days to her 50 birthday (which is a really big deal for a person who has been battling HIV/AIDS since 1986) when she received the devastating news.

I realize there are always three sides to a story: her side, their side, and the truth, but you have to admit that maybe things could have been dealt with a little differently.  Rae Lewis-Thornton is a trailblazing, spitfire of a woman and she is deserving of respect.

I don't feel she was respected in this scenario.  I have absolutely nothing against DST.  I think it is a phenomenal organization that has thrived for almost 100 years, but that doesn't negate the fact that a wonderful woman like Mrs. Lewis-Thornton was treated in the manner that she was treated.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lewis-Thornton, I implore you to check out her website and familiarize yourself with this warrior woman.

As a person who has lost love ones to HIV/AIDS, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Mrs. Lewis-Thornton.  So forgive me if this post appears a little biased because in all honesty is is.

Watch the video below and share your thoughts.


97 comments:

  1. Over the years, I have wondered about her and how she was faring. I heard her speak when I was in college. She's always been fiery. I'm glad she is still around and almost 50. The only comment I have about this particular situation is that she seeme to really value the honorary membership and it's sad to see her so upset. At the same time, taking to Twitter or anything else on the internet to air grievances is a recipe for disaster. Wish they could've come up with an amicable resolution.

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  2. ^^^^^^^ Wise response...

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  3. I am a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. and am horrified to hear my sorors blaming Soror Rae (and yes she will ALWAYS be Soror Rae to me) for reacting to the disrespectful way she was treated. All of you know good and well that if you were attacked in that manner you probably would have responded in kind. Like it or not this is the age of social media. Delta Inc. knows this and so do you. This is about money and politics. I guarantee you that Soror Roseline would NEVER have treated Bishop Vashti McKenzie, Rev. Dr. JoAnn Browning, Ruby Dee, Nikki Giovanani, etc. in this way. And trust me, I have been around each of these women and they are equally as fiery when riled up!!

    Shame on Soror Roseline. Shame on Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. I am and will always be a Delta, but it is NOT my first love/obsession and I will not sit idly by and allow the actions of a few ignorant sorors to overshadow those of us who show love and respect to ALL of our Honorary Sorors. There is a way to handle things and Soror Roseline handled it poorly. She should know better and if she doesn’t, she should be replaced with a Soror who does!

    For all the good we have done, God bless us. For this black eye on our sorority, God help us.

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    1. You say shame on our sorority in one breath as if you are not a member and then our sorority in another breath joining yourself to the sisterhood. It is unfortunate what happened. The comments will not change the issue. Words and statements are being said that cannot be taken back. I pledged DST for a reason and purpose; that reason and purpose is still there. I will never regret that decision. Let us find a way to heal this wound and stop pourIng salt into by the comments being made. If you are a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.,, blow the dust off your ritual and read it.

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    2. I was going to comment on this matter...but I do believe that you have said it all...and well done... I might add. And as for you Ms. Anonymous who is going to stand by lil ole Delta till the day she dies...should know that my Momma always used to tell me that everything that glitters ain't gold. In saying that I mean that your precious DST has been just as hateful and uncaring to others that are their sorors as they have been to this young woman. I have witnessed these things take place myself and yes, I did respond to the matter accordingly. I don't care if your the President of the United States...if your wrong...your wrong and Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated was wrong. Period...end of conversation. They messed up; like loads of people do every day...and in my opinion they need to apologize to that woman. Oh forget it... I am a member of Delta Sigma Theta and I apologize to you Ms. Thornton for this matter happening to you and you are always in my prayers.

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  4. I agree that maybe Rae could've handled it differently but that is who she is: transparent! Delta knew who she was before inducting her. I feel Delta lacked compassion on the way they dealt with the situation, it wasn't bad enough to rescind her membership. Some people are probably looking at this & saying it's just a sorority BUT Rae probably built some great relationships in that group and felt part of their family and considering her day to day battle with AIDS, I'm assuming it was an honor and an accomplishment to be recognized by them... I think it was unfortunate & I hope this gets enough press to highlight Rae on her journey.

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  5. Rowena L. LangstonMay 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    Rae, You are now and always have been your own woman. You do not need the approval of ANYONE from ANY ORGANIZATION to Validate You!!!!! That is one of the reasons that I have NEVER considered being a part of a SORORITY CLICK! I APPLAUD YOU FOR STANDING YOUR GROUND AND BEING YOU! God Bless you! Continue with your journey. You are a symbol of strength that has influenced those that have been fighting the strugle of this disease LONG BEFORE DELTA SIGMA THETA OR ANY OTHER SORORITY CHOSE TO JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON OF THE CAUSE BECAUSE IT WAS 'VOGUE'!!!! I admire you! Always have and always will. I am from the Sorority of 'regular sister that retired from a regular job with the Chicago Police Department'....Hold your head up girl.....In our world.....YOU ARE THE BOMB!!!! ;-)

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  6. I cried with you, I'm so sorry and their timing is unforgivable.

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  7. Wow!.. It appears that she was simply standing up for herself. Who does Rose McKinney think she is speaking to her that way? and over pictures? and this lady was just getting off the plane? Who would NOT be provoked under those circumstances? That is just totally classless! What kind of a sorority treats their own this way? How dare they!!! Now I will admit that she shouldn't have gone on Twitter, that was poor judgement on her part. However,I used to think highly of these ladies, now.. not so much.. Utterly classless. My prayers are with her.

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  8. Your mission and calling is much larger than DST.

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  9. Well, to speak in your vernacular...That is some serious Bull Shit...

    When you give ghetto people (Rose McKinney) too much power and we "little people" fail to recognize their Importance, they engage in petty vendettas to wreak havoc for the failure to kiss their proverbial @$$...

    https://www.facebook.com/kenneth.embry

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  10. As a member of Delta, I feel that the entire situation could have been handled differently. SHE did NOT have to vent and curse on Twitter about the the Sorority that she supposedly loves so much. There could have been a meeting or phone call to another member of the National Staff to attempt to resolve the issue. And for you "bandwagon" people, if she didn't have AIDS, you wouldn't have even viewed this video. Point blank. Period. There's is a way to do everything and things have to be done decently and in order.

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  11. This story was a very disheartening... I know many members of DST that are about service, and Rae has ALWAYS put herself out there, told her story truthfully and unabashedly, and dedicated her life to educating women and men about AIDS. It is unfortunate that she was treated so poorly by her so called "sister". She did not deserve to be treated that way and her response was much better than mine would have been. Rose McKinney is the one that embarassed DST by behaving in such a common manner. She should be ashamed. Rae, may God continue to bless you in ALL that you do, and as you turn 50, remember what Dr. Seuss used to say.... "Be who you are, and say what you want, because those that mind don't matter, and those matter don't mind. God Bless!

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  12. It would appear to me that the "bandwagon" people are the ladies of DST. If Rae had not been the face of HIV and Aids you ladies would have never ASKED her to be a member so save your faux righteousness for someone who gives a damn.

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  13. It is really easy to hear one side and get mad but until the entire story is heard judgement should be saved. Also at some point you have to grow up and understand that two wrongs don't make a right. If you are being talked to in a manner in which you don't like remove yourself from the situation in a why that allows you to keep yourself respect. I am sure in this case both parties could have handled things differently. All organizations have rules if you choice to be apart of one then you have to follow the rules are you will be removed.

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  14. Soror:

    Our sistah Rae Lewis-Thornton DID NOT make disparaging comments about our beloved DST. She made direct comments about our Executive Director. Please do not confuse the two..

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  15. As a member of another sorority, I feel this could have been handled with more TACT, rather than TACKINESS. A face-to-face meeting should have been set, where both parties could express their views, and get this handled in a most amicable and expeditious way, OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE !! DST got what they gave, and who can blame Ms. Thornton for going off on them, she was just getting back from her travels !! Let's just hope this fiasco shines the light where it needs to be, on the HIV/AIDS epidemic.

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  16. This is truly an egregious embarrassment. What is this "Basketball Wives"? With all that this woman has done for the community and the world, she deserves better! Where is her due process? Rose and her cohorts actually took time out of their lives to come to what must have been a painstaking decision (ha), to rescind this woman's membership over photos and a twitter beef. Couldn't there been a suspension or something less extreme? The purpose of these organizations is to serve and build the community. It is unfortunate that some Brothas and Sistas join these organizations to fill a void of insecurity rather than serve, and become monsters. Sista Rae, contrary to the beliefs of some of these fanatics, Delta is simply an organization. Life certainly goes on. Your true sisterhood is MUCH larger than any group. God Bless!

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  17. These comments are from those who have only heard Rae's side of this situation. The call out Delta and Rose McKinney without additional information is just immature and ignorant.

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  18. Really Kenneth? Have you ever meet Rose McKinney? This is sorority business. If you are a man you don't qualify to be in a Sorority.

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  19. Someone mentioned that we have only heard from one side.. Correction, we heard the whole story from ONE person. While she (Rae) should have had better discretion than to air a personal grievance on Twitter. It was juat as poor of a judgement for someone to be so "full of themselves" ( McKinney) that they had to "demand" that pictures be taken down "NOW!!" after a person has just gotten off of a plane. Who among us in full health is not irritable after getting off a plane, not to mention someone that id dealing with illness. That was just classless and downright ignorant, so as far as I am concerned, there IS no other side for someone that behaves in that manner. I have spoken to family memebers and friends that are a part of Delta Sigma Theta and they are just as ( if not more) embarassed at McKinney's behavior. The fact that the committee supported her decision is indeed a reflection of the sorority itself. Therefore, any comment made regarding McKinney or the organization is founded. Bottom line, this was a classless act over something small. By now means amd I exusing Rae's action, she should have been more discreet. However, McKinney and DST should be embarassed and brought all of this on themselves.

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  20. I have been in both McKinney and Thorton presence on more than one occasion. Thornton is a DRAMA queen that is now taking advantage of the situation. How many of you have purchased some of her bracelets since this news aired? How many of you even knew that she was selling anything? Thormton has taken advantage of my sorority for far too long.

    While everyone has an opinion, unless you have meet both of these women and been around them on more than one occasion, please keep it to yourself. It is worthless. As someone stated earlier, you have only heard ONE side of this situation. Thormton is human, not perfect and not a victim!

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  21. Last time I checked Rose McKinney was the president of an organization, not a country...so seriously, let's not speak abotu her as if she's the POTUS. Either way, to get respect you must give it and calling a grown woman and speaking to her the way that she did was disrespectful and uncalled for. Sisterhood and service, right? Seems like that all went out the window when Rae didn't allow herself to be spoken to in a disrespectful manner and when she expressed herself on her Twitter. In my opinion, she's better off without the organization and the faux "sisterhood" that DST prides themselves on.

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  22. looks like DST better pull our their PR big guns for this one! especially with sorority members making some pretty nasty comments as i've seen around the web about this situation. messy messy...

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    1. I want to ask a question. Are the Deltas who are making messy comments active financial members?

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    2. Delta Sigma Theta is a private organization, and we as MEMBERS decided who is in or OUT! SORORS, IF THIS WAS KESHA ON THE YARD IN THE SAME SITUATION, WOULD YOUR POSITION BE THE SAME? NO, BCZ YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE NEVER PICKED HER, BCZ OF HER CONDITION NOT HER SERVICE! SORRY WHAT HAPPENED TO RAE LEWIS, BUT PLEASE GET FACTS BEFORE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. BTW, DELTA DOESN'T OWE ANYBODY AN EXPLAINATION. GO READ THE NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES CONCERNING FB AND ANY OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA, SHE WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE, PERIOD, AND THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO OUR ACTIONS. BEING 50 YRS OLD THAT WAS CHILDISH ANYWAY.

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  23. McKinney is not Delta's President. She is the Executive Director.

    It is interesting that quite a few people totally believe Rae Lewis Thorton. This is not logical thinking.

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  24. There appears to be horrible actions on both hands
    1, McKinney was way out of line to address a grown woman in that manner, ( to tell her "take those pics down "NOW!" and she was getting off of a plane. I would be upset as well. There is a way to speak to people, and clearly she didn't chose to use a tactful or sisterly way to do so.
    2. Rae was out of line for putting that on Twitter. Somesone stated, two wrongs don't make a right. However, she can't be blamed for standing up for herself.
    I know of situatations in these so-called "sisterhoods" where a person gets some position, gets besides themselves, and thinks that the people are either peons or less than them. Then, someone comes along and says "not so".. Woe be unto them. Then, as my grandmother says, McKinney took a "wiff of herself" and decided to just really show out and embarass the sorority. This is s cut and dry situation of bad judgment and abuse of power. That is exactly what happened.. an over pictures?.. some sisterhood.

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  25. LADIES: LIFE IS BIGGER THAN A SORORITY, MINE OR THEIRS. GOD 1st....

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  26. Stop airing your dirty laundry in public. The world is not interested in this.

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  27. I don't agree with Rae using twitter as a platform. I am a member of Sigma Gamma Rho. However everyone is human and not perfect. Women are emotional. Rae was hurt and acted out on her emotions. I think if something was done wrong the sorority should have met with her. She is a true inspiration for women and should not have been kicked out.

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  28. Me and five of my other friends was seriously thinking about pledging, DST, but we are now reconsidering given the circumstances everyone deserves respect, and of someone repeatedly called me for something I couldn't handle right then and their I would have been MAD AS HELL too.

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    1. DST is not for you. If you want to be a Delta, nothing will change that.

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    2. Absolutely! If you are that easily influenced, no sorority may be right for you.

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    3. Thank God you are reconsidering. Delta isn't for just anyone..........

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    4. We thank you for your interest but let me correct you, you and your friends were considering seeking membership into my sorority, not pledging. You would actually need to be chosen before you made the decision to continue with that process.

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    5. Sorors, thank you! You fed it to her real nice! You need to find yourself, before pledging anything!

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    6. Well said, Sorors. DST does not "pledge," but as it has been stated, there is a membership intake process that you must be CHOSEN to partake in.

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  29. Ladies of course Ms. Thornton is sad as she should be however she has gone right back to what caused her to be removed from the soroity in the first place.....Did she ask for a meeting or what could be done? I am reminded of children. The first one who comes out and tells their story usually gets the sympathy. I think DST should not discuss this business publically. and for those of you who are reconsidering making application to DST..perhaps you should not apply because in the words of Kappa Alapha Psi many are called but few are chosen.

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  30. @Anonymous 5/4/12:23 PM- Ditto

    One day the WHOLE story will be told. To date, only one side has been told...publicly, that is...

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  31. I think meant to say in the words of Matthew 22:14, "Many are called but few are chosen."

    KAPsi can take credit for many things but that quote isn't one of them.

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  32. As a member of any sorority, she knew what was appropriate and what was not. She should have never posted the photos. No matter what the situation, a 50 year old "WOMAN" in the public eye should not have reacted the way she did. Better DST found out the true Ms. Thornton now. She got what she deserved!

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  33. Speak to it!!!

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  34. As a Christian and member of Delta Sigma Theta, I would like to make a statement that I hope will end all of the negative comments: "He that is without sin, cast the first stone."

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  35. It's my belief that Rae thought she was above approach . As a member of any organization there are rules and guidelines set to protect the name and legacy of the organization. And every organization hasactions that are taken if those rules and guidelines are not followed. So I took a moment to look at DST website and low and behold Under website guidelines it says websites pages should not include (ceremonial Narrative or photographs), these means this rule applies is for everyone). Rae got what she deserve she is old enough to understand rules and guidelines.

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    1. I totally agree. She blew off the initial request of giving a time line for removing the picture. If Delta allowed this bx, it would certainly dicredit the fact that membership indeed does have its privileges and membership is not easy.

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  36. How sad! It is amazing how someone who speaks in many public forums has difficulty choosing vocabulary that does not include profanity. Whether you are an honorary member or not, no one is above the organization or following rules of it. Rules and procedures are set in place for a reason. When the law is broken, for example, one has to pay the consequences for his/her actions even if it's the first offense. You have to be cognacent of your actions at all times. Once again, this is a sad moment but a teachable one.

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    1. I totally agree. Her message is so profound, but sometimes the raunchy delivery spoils it.

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  37. DST business and protocol are serious issues, particularly when there is an opportunity for public exposure by sorors (yes, I am a Delta) who are in more of the public eye like Rae. A personal phone call of that nature (requesting removal of the picture and a timeframe ) respectfully commands immediate attention. Based on Rae's video blog that I watched, sorors McKinney asked several times from an anticipated time for removal which she seemed to evade by saying "I don't know "Girl and then offering excuses about having just gotten off of a plane,etc.... I think that if she had simply, respectfully said something like "I will have it off in the next 24 hours" or some definitive time period, it would have been avoided. After being questioned several times, she finally gave some sort of time frame, but in my opinion her initial response devalued the importance of what was being asked of her. Delta business is serious, period. As someone else mentioned, adding salt to this wound by going on twitter, etc... was NOT the way to maintain membership, as our business is our business. It is unfortunate that this matter has put a bad taste in the mouths of many, but should you ever experience the bond of sisterhood and privilege that Delta brings, you would understand fully. Please know that I do believe that the loss of Ms. Thornton is unfortunate and definitely a loss. I wish that things could have been done differently, but after choosing to confront soror McKinney publically brought about the decision. As Ms. Thorton has so drilless to us, at the end of the day, it's all about choices .....right?

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    1. Sorry for all the typos on this response everyone ....using my "smart phone", it tries to predict/correct what I type and often enters mistakes.

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  38. You guys should not judge a sorority based on a story told my a visibly upset individual. How do you really know if this was/is an ongoing investigation concerning her actions past or present concerning protocol? Did the events on the telephone really take place the way she is commenting? I am not calling her a liar, but interpretations of conversations held are just that, and are most often one sided. There are over 250,000 ladies in DST and I am sure that there have been problems from time to time, just like in any organization. However, just like most of us are taught as children, have some loyalty and choose the correct method for solving in house problems. This 50 year old woman chose to share her sorority business with the world. The elected officials did not. They called her privately good or bad. No one knows what their organization would have done in a situation like this because it did not happen to them. Their private business was not exploited on a social network.

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    1. As I recall from the video, there were students in the car with her during her conversations with the ED. Seems to me.....the conversations can be verified.
      That's neither here nor there. Rae has taken responsibility for her tweets....and there are consequences for every action. This consequence....just didnt match the action. (in my opinion)

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  39. Thank you so much Anonymous for your post. This, (& I copied your words), " There are over 250,000 ladies in DST and I am sure that there have been problems from time to time, just like in any organization. However, just like most of us are taught as children, have some loyalty and choose the correct method for solving in house problems. This 50 year old woman chose to share her sorority business with the world. The elected officials did not. They called her privately good or bad. No one knows what their organization would have done in a situation like this because it did not happen to them. Their private business was not exploited on a social network.", is the absolute best reply here.

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  40. Bad choices have really cost Rae a lot. Time and time again.

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    1. I hope you know her personally, to make such accusations.

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    2. I don't have to know her personally to say that. Damn that's the message she delivers about herself everywhere she goes. The question is, do you even listen to her? She makes a point to say her life is a result of HER poor choices. Read the blogs and watch the videos please .....

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  41. This continues to be a problem because it should not have been on twitter in the first place. It was a private matter. Now every one has an opinion. She made it possible for everyone to have an opinion on something that did not concern them unless they are a member of that sorority. They all have committed to and are responsible for an oath of privacy. It was broken! I am sure that most people who are commenting don't know her personally. She seems to be a beautiful person, but again you are responsible for your actions and there are consequences for them. Just like there will probably be for the execs. However, we will not know because it will not be made public, it is/was a private matter within that sorority.

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  42. Since we were not privy to the conversation between the ED of Delta and Ms. Lewis_Thornton, nobody knows excatly what was said except the two of them. It is obvious that Lewis-Thornton has no problem with cussing and vulgarity. She says that's just who she is. Fortunately, that's not who Delta is. As accomplished as she is, it was was not a good match. Disgusting rudeness and disrespect to another soror is not acceptable. Did she really believe there would be no repercussions after cussing out a soror who happens to be a national officer? And no, the executive board did not have to inform her (or any other soror) what was taking place. They have no such obligation. In doing service work in an organization this size, agreement is rare. There has to be civility in order to accomplish the work. God bless and keep her as she continues to do the marvelous work she does, but DST just was not for her.

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    1. Beautifully put soror and I could not agree more. Delta has no tolerance for lewd and disrespectful behavior, and consequently, as you stated, was not the organization for her. There is a way to keep things "real" without some of the language and explicits that she chooses to use. I would never have made it behaving like that and would never knowingly initiate someone who behaves like that--and publically in fact, adds a whole other layer of concern.

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  43. As I scroll through, I see that many of you make valid points on both sides. The way I see it, the consequence is clearly an abuse of power of an overzealous executive director. While I totally agree that protocal is to be respected, there is a protocal of huma respect and decency that must be respected. Truly, poor judgement on both part. I also want to point out: As much as people would have to admit, the way she (McKinney) handled the situation with Rae is INDEED a reflection of the sorority.Therfore,someone SHOULD have second thoughts if this is how members are treated.

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    1. We do not know how Ms McKinney handled the situation. We only know how Rae did, per her own report and social blasts. I didn't matter "who" she was (Rae that is), she was inappropriate and way too public with a sacred matter. Disrespect, even if you are the pope, gets you consequenced.

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  44. The only people who really know what the conversation was are the two people who had it. Everyone else is just guessing and responding, based on assumptions and their own prejudices. It's pointless. The organization has rules. It's not for people outside of the organization to understand. A lot of people don't understand Christianity--okay, free country. Don't become a Christian. Delta has rules. Don’t like them. Don’t join. It’s that simple.

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  45. I read the article and watched the video. I am not a member of any sorority and do not claim to understand the innerworkings of such organizations. I also am unaware of who Ms. Lewis-Thornton. That said, my comments arebased solely on what I saw in her video and the article written.
    After viewing the video, I write this in a confused state. What did she hope to accomplish as a result of publishing this video? Transparency? Ok- why not quote parts of the actual letter? It is not my style to vent so publically. In fact, I think that I would have tried to resolve the matter privately and then had a video discussing the results. For clarification, what confuses me is that she speaks about being ousted from DST, and seems to want this ousting to be temporary. By doing this video, was she hoping that DST members will shower her with support and force DST to change their minds? Does she want them to purchase her DSTish bracelet in protest? If so, do you. If not, what does she want?

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  46. Soror Rae is believable because many sorors have experienced the bullying- perhaps not on a national level but within the org itself. Sad but true and rarely is it spoken about because "you shouldn't air Delta business in public."

    I'm a member and I love DST and what it stands for but this story though saddening is not surprising and I can absolutely believe that this went from being about pictures to a pride/power situation.

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    1. It is so sad that you feel this way about our beloved sisterhood. You dare say that some negative experience you had validates her emotionally fueled report? Lots of us worked hard to gain membership and continue to work hard to make Delta the wonderful organization that it is today. With the "not surprising " attitude that you have, it is no wonder you cannot understand the sacred aspects of our organization that keeps thousands of on-lookers praying for entry each year.

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    2. Correction she is NOT a soror! Whatever happened to you, you allowed it. You are a grown woman and should be able to make sound decisions. I know for a fact u signed the non-hazing document. If you are really a Delta:)

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  47. Soror Thornton,

    Be prayerful and I hope and pray that the decision is reversed. I was in Chicago for your initiation and it was one of the moments in my life that I will never forget. Your story and your speech was moving and it renewed my love for Delta. Once a soror, always a soror.

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  48. Still blasting Delta!!!! Sorors for real!!!!! Come on!!!!!!!!!!! Pray for her and the situation and then leave it alone!!!!!!!

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  49. I agree leave it alone, and move on!!!!!

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  50. While I sympathize with Mrs. Thornton, What you value you will respect. Where there is no investment there is no appreciation!!! I am astounded at the vulgar language she uses and is suppose to be a Minister of The Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Church needs to take a hard look at recinding her Ministry Credentials!!! Good decision DST!!! Select your members more carefully!!!

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  51. Have you ever worked with people who have advanced stages of HIV? You can not act like they are thinking like you. This fine human being is suffering from the worst disease. You can't begin to imagine the effect Hiv has on your state of mind. Would you go into a cancer ward and speak harshly to dying people? If a sick person goes off on you, would you take it personally or would you say this isn't about me. Do you get insulted at a family member with an illness or do you love this person each and everyday you have them with you. Do you say you cursed at me when I yelled at you so you are no longer my sister. You are no longer in my family. You don't matter anymore. You will now have to die alone. You will now have to bare the HIV burden all by yourself. Rae being so upset means she really loves Delta. The question is does Delta really love her. Is Delta crying for the loss of this fine person with HIV? Amen

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    1. I have and do work as a therapist with women who are infected with HIV or AIDS. I facilitate groups and conduct indivisible therapy. You are absolutely wrong. There are many women who are of sound mine, rational, and not as fiery as Rae. Rae has made some bad decisions. She admits it. Venting on twitter about her issue was a bad decision. Opting to sell jewelry with Delta's name...another one. Everyone has a right to self expression but unfortunately discretion has been lost thanks to these social network platforms. Rae's honorary membership being snatched was unfortunate but what's in your heart will stay forever.

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  52. SO OUTRAGEOUS!!!! THIS MAKES ME ASHAMED AS A SOROR.. I THOUGHT WE ONLY DEALT WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS WITHIN OUR INDIVIDUAL CHAPTERS... THOUGHT THE NATIONAL OFFICERS WERE MUCH MORE MATURE... A DAMN SHAME!

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  53. you should have your pearls taken too... Delta business should stay just that.

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  54. I pray this lady is not a Minister anywhere. This video is bull and yall know it. I'm so glad she is no longer representing my organization. Yes, we all have our downfalls, but in Delta we have the same rights, duties, and responsibilities, no matter your title "Honorary". Responsibilities includes following the code of conduct! After listening to this, I can only imagine what was on Twitter. You can be a servant, but please don't forget *woman of Good Character, college educated**Christian principles...Raw, represented none of the above in this video. I curse too, but there is a time and place for everything, and if u can't control that, u have problems beyond DST. One thing DST has proven, we are not caught up in the hype** fame, the public and their thoughts...t.o the women who are reconsidering Delta and those do called runaway Deltas, I'm gone let u in on a little secret...We are the largest sorority 300,000+, and we don't have to have another intake for 10 years if we don't want to. Because there are several thousands of my sorors who live by DEDICATION. And we do nothing without going to the Father first, so we are covered! Rae, I'm praying for peace and understanding for you. You don't need Delta to do the things u claim come from your heart...Ijs...I know u may not have a boss but I'm sure most of the people on here do. If you feel Deltas position was wrong in this matter, I need all of you all to do and say what Rae did at work in the morning. And let's see who still has a job, by 5pm. Drops Mic and exit the stage:)
    99 YEARS AGO, TWENTY TWO WOMEN HAD TO GO....FINISH THE CHANT SORORS:) GOOD NIGHT

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  55. SERIOUSLY? I took the time to watch this video and read ALL of the comments and I'm astounded at the extraordinarily high level of combined arrogance and ignorance from Delta sorors. Delta is an organization of individuals, NOTHING MORE. I've watched more Deltas publicly and privately embarrass themselves, their families and their professions (including here with the grammatical errors and typos) so the proclamations of superiority are laughable.

    Rae-I understand how hurtful this was, but trust that you are MUCH better off WITHOUT the attachment to Delta.

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    1. Your post is laughable! I don't understand how you ladies that are not in any Greek organizations Hate something or a group of women u know nothing about, or in your words could care less about. I confused help me somebody! You starting to look like envy, jealousy. And according to your post, your issue is far deeper than what Delta did to Rae, what did Delta do to you? Did u not get your call at some point??? Speak to what u can back up with facts, I know its a fact Rae violated DST code if conduct and there are consequences!

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  56. I so agree that the post is laughable! Seriously, this is regarding your post that makes reference to grammatical errors and typos. There is no need to be rude!!!!!!! How do you know which posts were actually written by members of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority? Anyone can post anonymous on this site. So sorry that you have a problem with an organization that has decades of proven service and success!!!!!!!!

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  57. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Of course I only know your side of the story but I still can't believe that an org such as DST would do such a thing. I'm not a member but I aspire to be and this just breaks my heart. I would expect this from another org but not DST. Either way DST does not define you or anyone else. You are who you are and will always be. Best wishes and continued health to you.

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  58. Well spoken. I can tell you are truly a self actualized woman. Do "YOU" hun. You don't need DST. DST needs you. That's why you were given that membership. Don't feel bad for even a second. They showed their true colors...and sisterhood ain't in there.

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  59. Delta does not owe anyone an explanation, however, premier organizations do manage public relations which sometimes requires explanations of actions - especially when they are so public.

    I too am a member and believe this story has grown out of one side of the story. But I also feel this most likely could have been handled differently by both parties.

    If Ms.kinley was disrespectful (i'm not denying the possibility), I would like to believe there is other info we are not privy to that made President Butler-McIntyre feel confident in upholding this decision.

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  60. As a non-financial, non-active member of another sorority, Rae just be glad. These "black greek" organizations are just trying to stay relevant. I just wanna know did they do the same to Sheryl Lee Ralph who was in the picture with you? Cuz she would not have held back either. Girl do you and 'eff 'em. I don't even remember the handshake or the challenge of my sorority.

    But on another note: Just a suggestion, stay off Twitter, that is the devil's tool if there ever was one.

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    1. Fyi....it wasn't Soror Ralphs website, or Twitter comments, stop drifting away from the facts. You are a member of another organization, stay relevant??? Some of these children wouldn't have mentors, and definitely Big Bros Big Sisters would not exist w/o Greek organizations. The volunteers are members or wanna be. You know how many of us are educators??? Do u know how much we give in scholarships yearly??do u know of the social action these organizations have done, school supplies, adopt a family??? Seem pretty relevant to me.

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  61. I agree that the post is drifting away from the facts. Please focus on the fact that there are benefits in every facet of the Greek Letter organizations. Sororities and Fraternities have given enormously to the well being of our global society throughout cultures for decades.

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  62. So many issues are merging:
    1) Haven't heard all sides but from what I've read and listened to Rae was treated as a "child": not cool under any circumstances.
    2) Not sure I understand why Rae who provides a great service to humanity really wanted to be associated with a "group" that was starting to show signs of disagreement with her style. Obviously the organization changed over the years.
    3) Just because Rae's childhood was full of negative messages from her mom, I hope she can overcome them and see that it is not meant for her to be a Delta; it would seem that she does not resonate with authoritative type structures. There are plenty other "groups" that appreciate service. The Deltas are not the end of the world. And those women who are independent minded Deltas who lovee you will continue to do so.

    That said: I believe it's time for her to move on independently and let her life continue to shine. It's ironic that in her life story when she wanted someone to "love her" these were often the people who did her wrong. She had an aha moment with her therapist and saw this. So, hopefully she sees that it is the same for the Deltas. It doesn't matter there reason for rejection; what matters is that they apparently felt she no longer fit with their organization(and it is not because she is not service oriented) because her style did not mesh with certain people on the executive level.
    Dry those tears up; there are too many people who need your help. And besides it is biblical to not be a respector of persons. Organizations are not where it's at. It's the individual people that matter. That I believe is your lesson.

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  63. If Delta Sigma Theta, can leave Alpha Kappa Alpha, they sure as hell will leave you..It is a sorority founded on the principles of division, non-loyalty, and confusion. If you can't be loyal to the pledges, oaths, and rituals of one organization, you can't expect that organization to be loyal to you...Don't forget the founding members of Delta Sigma Theta were once members of ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA, SORORITY INC.

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  64. You are a sad individual! What is this about and why are you so bitter? Delta Sigma Theta did not leave Alpha Kappa Alpha. The entire membership of the undergraduate chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha left their sorority due to their own internal conflicts and confusion. Read the history of these organizations. Yes, the founders were members!!!!! However, the members at that time were wanting to restructure Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority and rename it. Delta Sigma Theta was founded years later as a completely different organization based on its own principles and the founders' vision of excellence.

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  65. Let me ask you this..If members of Delta Sigma Theta wanted to restructure DST, and rename it, would current members allow such action to take place (I'll wait)....H3LL no!!!

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  66. THESE DELTAS ON HERE, EGOS ARE BIGGER THAN THEIR NAPPY AFROS!!! ALL DELTAS ARE AKA REJECTS!!! TOO DARK AND GHETTO TO MAKE THE CUT!! TO LOOK DOWN ON HER?? LUCKY SHE "BRIGHTENED" UP THEIR DARKNESS FOR THE TIME SHE COULD.

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  67. I'd like to commend HIV Activist Rae-Lewis Thornton on her successful battle with the disease. It is empowering and encouraging to women everywhere and most certainly deserves recognition.
    However, I have several opinions about her situation that I would like to address:
    Firstly, As a current student attending a Historically Black College and University (i.e. FAMU), I can say that one of the staples of the organization (and sororities in general) is solidarity and singleness of purpose that the organization seeks to embody. Delta Sigma Theta represents a collective of African American women who are progressive and seek to uphold a united front. SO that means, individual problems and burdens are sometimes sacrificed for the good of the group, or the good of the whole. For Deltas who pledged this seems like something that is common knowledge -and even for someone like myself who as not pledged and has no affiliation with the organization at all,-it is obvious that in order for such an organization to have advanced in the way that it has, the members have had to know that their own personal trials and tribulations, while making up the collective experiences of the group, cannot override the efforts of the group, nor should they be broadcasted for public scrutiny. With all due respect to HIV Activist Rae-Lewis Thornton, it seems that she has been unable to recognize that by accepting an Honorary membership, she agreed to reinforce the values that the organization represents. One of which, is a united front. Therefore, I don't she was WRONG to disagree, however I do see why her inability to follow proper protocol within the organization has lead to her membership being rescinded.

    She doesn't seem to have enough respect for the organization to understand her role in the context of it, and to know that, while disagreements with other members are inevitable (and she is not the only one to have ever had one in the history of Delta Sigma Theta), they are not to be discussed publicly outside of the organization.

    (To be continued in post 2)

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  68. (post 2)

    For her to say they didn't talk to her is wrong. They did to talk to her. But, as evidenced in this video, she seemed more interested in getting validation from anonymous people through the internet than upholding the principles and practice of an organization that is nearly 100+ years old. For this I say, she does not need to be a member. It is far too easy to act without discretion, and to say whatever comes to your mind, and with today's technology messages spread like wildfire across the Internet. So that nowadays many people use portals like Twitter and Youtube etc. to voice their opinions and get "pats on the back", when they are feeling down about an issue.

    This is the same reason (I believe) Ms. Thornton went on twitter at the onset of the issue, and this is the same reason she brought up the issue on youtube. To get approval from us, the watchers and readers. However, you don't get my approval because YOU were wrong.

    United we stand, divided we fall. Haven't we seen that across the board in politics, government, and even with issues regarding the black community as a whole? Of course. So I have to argue that it was Ms. Thornton's ego that is actually too big. The Delta's aim is to represent oneness, and her aim seemed to be to cast aside the wants and goals of the organization, to focus on the one. But it was bigger than her, and the internal strifes and problems experienced within members of the organization should have been voiced to members of the organization - not to the world. This is an understanding that may be lost to some honorary members, because they didn't have to earn their membership the typical way.

    As a result, I believe that the Deltas were completely right in their decision to rescind her honorary membership. In the future, when you sign up for something that is bigger than yourself, it would behoove you Ms. Thornton, to learn how to cast petty disagreements to the side, or at least to know the proper protocol regarding the how and when to bring up such claims.

    That is all.

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  69. As a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, I would like to thank you for your intelligent comment. You are the type of student that we are proud to have in one of our historically black universities. Good Luck in all of your future endeavors!!!!!!!!

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